Here’s the first, with Tony Blair’s Head of Strategy, Alastair Campbell.

 [fvplayer src=”https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfKD-ylEShc”]

And the second, a really interesting chat with billionaire investor, Jim Mellon, about longevity.

[fvplayer src=”https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w65uUsVijEU&t=5s”] 

Podcast versions of both are here.